tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1660090614793277371.post7847341328209475594..comments2024-03-19T21:14:01.007-07:00Comments on The Compass Rose: Joe Ceravolo Once and ForeverCurtis Favillehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06213075853354387634noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1660090614793277371.post-1047237720175209272013-02-11T08:53:30.648-08:002013-02-11T08:53:30.648-08:00I find "ice cold love" to be somewhat cl...I find "ice cold love" to be somewhat cliche, or is it meant to be cliche?<br /><br />I find this poem to be very uneven.Kirby Olsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1660090614793277371.post-88962779752514528782013-02-10T10:01:31.754-08:002013-02-10T10:01:31.754-08:00Curtis,
thanks for the introduction to Ceravolo, ...Curtis,<br /><br />thanks for the introduction to Ceravolo, almost an exact contemporary of Samperi's. What similar backgrounds they share(Italo-American upbringing, war service and associations with leading literary lights of the day) and yet how remarkably different in inspiration and style.<br /><br />I think Samperi, abetted by Corman, would have thought Ceravolo too experimentalist for his liking: too eager to imitate and please the literary factions. But there's a lyricism in lines like <br /><br />The forest things are passing.<br />I did drink my milk<br />like a mother of wolves.<br />Wolves on the desert <br />of ice cold love, of<br />fireproof breasts and the breast<br />I took like snow<br /><br />that Samperi would have praised highly. Ceravolo's nature verses are, of course, too "withering", unredeeming for the Dantean poet. What interesting discussions they would have had!<br /><br />Conrad DiDiodatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18312831623791642286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1660090614793277371.post-85922035944450923312013-02-09T12:00:19.254-08:002013-02-09T12:00:19.254-08:00I liked reading it. I never caught the Ceravolo vo...I liked reading it. I never caught the Ceravolo vogue. I remember in Fagin's classes at Naropa in summer of 77 and 79 he would introduce these poems and they never did anything for me.<br /><br />I don't know why. I thought they were funny, in a way, but not in any way that I could describe.<br /><br />Perhaps his living in NJ and then dying fairly young made him incapable of sustaining a reputation. I think it always helps to be a scenester. Plus he had a career it sounds like as an engineer, and a family to support.<br /><br />I will stay open to Ceravolo and hope that someone along the way explains something in some way that makes me want to enter the poems.<br /><br />Do you enter them as a subject, or do you glide on the surface?<br /><br />With O'Hara I think there is actually a story, and you follow it. With Ashbery that isn't the case. You're meant to enjoy the surface at least more so than the story itself.<br /><br />With Ceravolo I don't get much of a sustained narrative.<br /><br />Koch has arguments and narrative. I don't generally appreciate them, as they are too blithe for my taste, and too up. I prefer the horror of sadness at least mixed into a poem.<br /><br />I almost never understand poetry, but I like to read about it, which is why I read it. I don't know why anybody would read it for its own sake. What's fun is to read the arguments.Kirby Olsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05952289700191142943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1660090614793277371.post-70885760882407064022013-02-09T11:23:26.729-08:002013-02-09T11:23:26.729-08:00I was going to say
that I really like the way he
b...I was going to say<br />that I really like the way he<br />brakes the line however<br />you so did ...<br /><br />nice post. thanks.<br /><br />and that last piece ?<br /><br />I read / hear "We die all around"<br />as<br />"We die all 'round" for some<br />reason.Ed Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11285310130024785775noreply@blogger.com